Speaker 1 00:00:20 Uh, it's a little bit of blood work you have done and it checks all the levels of your micronutrients. So it checks 31 vitamins and minerals. It checks your fatty acids and how you are metabolizing those. It checks how you're breaking down your carbohydrates, your fat, your protein, all your amino acids in antioxidants. I've been running this report and inevitably you're gonna be deficient in something, whether it be copper or uh, vitamin B two or, or glutathione or some kind of nutrient that may not be included in every multivitamin or it may be something you're not getting from your diet. So this has been able to identify what, what we call nutritional gaps.
Speaker 2 00:01:00 Trace minerals.
Speaker 1 00:01:01 Trace minerals, things like that. Nutritional gaps are, they're nutrients that you may not necessarily be getting from your diet. That's the, the idea behind vitamin supplementation anyway is that that's why you take 'em is to give your body the nutrients that you're not getting from the food you're eating. So this is a way that we can identify exactly what nutrients you are deficient in that way it's customized supplementation instead of just going to cvs buying a Centro one a day vitamin and just guessing. Right? And I ran one on a guy, uh, yesterday and it came back, you know, he had multiple deficiencies but one of them was vitamin D. And he goes, well I'm taking vitamin D, where'd you get it? And he said, cvs. And I said, well there you go. So we gotta get you on one that's actually in a form that your body can't absorb.
Speaker 2 00:01:46 Assimilate.
Speaker 1 00:01:47 Yes, exactly. Maybe put some vitamin K two with it so that you're actually absorbing that vitamin D. And that way it's helping out with your hormones and it's doing its job hoping with your immune system and everything. So this specter cell lab tests that have been running is, uh, has been really valuable. We can do that here in office. You know, it's something that I just send off to LabCorp and the patient goes, they get it done and I get the results back within 10 days and I go over it with them and then we can get started with the supplementation that we know they actually need.
Speaker 2 00:02:18 Yes. When you're looking at even mineral supplementation, you know, and you were talking about this, say you're a deficient in manganese, um, even though they may be taking a mineral supplement, it may not have the extra manganese necessary where they would benefit from a another supplement, mineral supplement. But maybe one that, for example, is higher in manganese or potassium. Like we have one mineral that's very good for people who are potassium deficient as opposed to another mineral that would probably cover a wider band of minerals but wouldn't necessarily bring up that higher level potassium that you might be able to pick up on that particular test. And also this test, the blood test or urine test,
Speaker 1 00:03:01 This is blood. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:03:02 Yeah. Um, so of course the patient has to have the blood drawn and you can get that done and then send it off and LabCorp sends it back to you, print it out just like that. And then you can identify certain things that might be an underlying cause for why they're not getting the results that they won't. And you're talking about the vitamin D sometimes you have to say, okay, you're taking the vitamin D but why aren't you assimilating it? Now we might be able to find out why that is. Whether there is a synergistic supplement that needs to be brought up so that he's absorbing that and could not also be maybe a GI related issue why he's not absorbing that vitamin D. And here you've found an A condition, if you will, and now we need to find the underlying cause cuz like you said, sometimes with vitamin D deficiency you have to start looking into the hormone aspect of that again
Speaker 1 00:03:50 Cause Yeah, cuz vitamin D is a hormone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:03:51 And then the other thing that why, what might happen on that particular patient's issue is that the body may decide it needs to elevate the cholesterol for the absorption of the vitamin D three. And then if that happens and he goes to the wrong doctor and he says, oh, oh here your cholesterol's up, we gotta bring that down. No, no, no, no, no. My vitamin D is deficient. Perhaps that's why it's elevating. Trying to get more absorption of the vitamin D. Correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:04:15 That's right. Cuz all your hormones are synthesized or made from cholesterol. So when you have cholesterol that might be a little higher than the average range that's written on your lab work. That could be your body saying, Hey, we need more hormones here. Your hormones are low, you might have low testosterone, so we're gonna increase the cholesterol so that we have more of the components to make the hormones. But like you said, you are the wrong doctor. Next thing you know, you're on a statin drug, your cholesterol's down under a hundred. What do you think that does? The testosterone, now it's bottoming out. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So what are we gonna have to do now? Now it's more drugs. More drugs, more drugs.
Speaker 2 00:04:51 Where if they just gave them that by which they were deficient in, let's see, is testosterone then, or in this case the D three, then the cholesterol drops on its own because the body is doing physiologically what it is designed to do. It's doing this thing, leave it alone. But um, no, we want to chase numbers. So, um, good point there.
Speaker 1 00:05:11 I just like being able to make a supplement program based on what we know they're deficient in. That's
Speaker 2 00:05:19 Been objective.
Speaker 1 00:05:20 Objective. Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:05:21 Bingo. Which is one of the frustrating things with so many of these cookie cutter, you know, people are trying to do the right thing and you understand that. And that's one thing I tell my patients, but yet they're out buying store bought syndrome or one a day or something, which is in, you know, my opinion, total junk. They're making an effort. So, so at least make that effort worth their, while I use this term. And sometimes it's better to pay a little bit more for something than it is to pay anything for nothing. So when I see them saying that they're supplementing, then let's, let's make it worth their while. Cause at least they're taking their objective is, is is good and let's make it worth a while.
Speaker 1 00:05:59 That just goes back to our episode about the top three supplements everyone should take. That's gonna be your best bet to make sure that you're, you don't have those nutritional gaps,
Speaker 2 00:06:09 Cover the
Speaker 1 00:06:09 Bases, cover the bases. That's gonna at least put you at a lower risk for having any of these deficiencies. It's, it's important to know when to check, but if you're taking your multivitamin, your multi mineral and your, um, your epa, d h a old prima, that's going to give you the basics, that's gonna put you at the best chance for not having any deficiencies
Speaker 2 00:06:28 Because those are probably the three greatest that most of us aren't deficient in. That's a good place to start.
Speaker 1 00:06:35 Yep. The basics, the foundational supplements.
Speaker 2 00:06:37 That's the other thing why I tell, you know, patients nothing, no vitamin in nature comes without the minerals and no mineral and nature comes without theistic vitamins.
Speaker 1 00:06:48 Well, anything else you wanna touch on?
Speaker 2 00:06:50 Uh, yeah, yeah, no, that was pretty short and sweet there.
Speaker 1 00:06:53 Vitamins, minerals, all all the good stuff. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:06:56 Just, you know, with the book coming man, there's just so much out there that's like I, you know, I just talked to a girl that Cameron brought over and she's got two sisters, I think they're twins, 17 and all messed up. And um, so she brought me, you know, their diagnosis that post POS
Speaker 1 00:07:18 Whatever Oh, P
Speaker 2 00:07:18 C Os Yes. P C O S and you know, I'm looking at them, they have these thyroid symptoms, but the blood work's all normal. Um, and I start listing off, basically they both got acid reflux and they both alkaline is all get
Speaker 1 00:07:32 Out, always goes back to the gut
Speaker 2 00:07:33 Man. And that's what I told her. And they just, that's what that is. And then she was talking about her dad and I was telling him how, you know, they wanna wind up in type two diabetes earlier than they used to. It used to be at this age and now it's here. And she said, well, yeah, my dad's got that. And I said, yeah, and your dad's what? Maybe he's still in his forties. And she says, yeah, 40, 50, 40. I said forties. And I said, yes. And then you know what? And if he's not careful, sleep ap. If he's not careful, sleep apnea is next. She goes, oh my god, he's got that too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. That's right. You know, it's just, it's just the pattern. And I told her that I call this the disease state. When people start getting to where they have all these multiple conditions, and this used to be something you'd see really in the fifties, we considered the disease state early. Right. Cause it's usually seventies. But now, you know as well as I do, man, 40 year olds are walking in, you know, with four different medications that's the disease state. But now here you got a situation like the 17 year old twins, they're on three or four, all right? They're already into a state of medicated and regulated that's disease state now before they even getting into the twenties, you
Speaker 1 00:08:42 Know, with Yeah, they're getting an early start.
Speaker 2 00:08:44 The thyroid, the weight gain issue already the hair's falling out. I mean, woo, menstrual cycles being missed and then heavy flow when they do, um, yeah. It's, you know, no longer we're in practice the sooner it's coming around.
Speaker 1 00:09:00 So yeah. And you know, there, there are surgical interventions for that, but it's almost like the treatment's worse than the actual issue when it comes to that. I've known people that have had that done and they talked about it was an absolute nightmare recovering.
Speaker 2 00:09:10 It was a nightmare. And they were in their forties and fifties then too. Now
Speaker 1 00:09:14 This girl's early twenties. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:09:15 Right. That's just a nightmare. It's a nightmare for it to be even coming along that, that quickly, same thing with the, the hiatal hernias. So both of 'em have hiatal hernias. I pushed one in just moments earlier before I met with her and, but that, that was on, um, late seventies year old patient. But here's two 17 year olds with hiatal hernias already. Yeah. I mean it's just common. It's just crazy. Um, and you can reflect it all back to diet Brother diet. It's just how quickly the wheels are coming off with what they're eating today. Hi brother. Good weekend.
Speaker 1 00:09:48 Yep, you too buddy.