Episode Transcript
Speaker 2 00:00:20 Good morning, everybody. Happy Monday. Big announcement. Tell us the news, Joey, What happened?
Speaker 1 00:00:26 Baby Charlotte is here.
Speaker 2 00:00:29 Baby Horton has arrived. She
Speaker 1 00:00:31 Has arrived
Speaker 2 00:00:32 <laugh>, October 17th. Give
Speaker 1 00:00:33 Horton a who
Speaker 2 00:00:35 Six pounds, four ounces. She came a few weeks early. She's, she's small girl, but so is her mom. And it made sense. So Katie was, I'm gonna have, we're gonna have her on, and so she can tell the whole story, but I'll just go into a little bit about what happened just so people can stay up to date. Katie went to the ballet at Alabama Theater with my mom and her mom, regular day, I think it was called Swan Lake. They were at, and they were watching it. Everything's good until around intermission rolls around. And I don't know if the tones from that organ just vibrated her body in just the right way or what, but she <laugh> she started having cramps and she hadn't had any cramps throughout the whole pregnancy. She was just kind of paying attention, you know? Okay. She's thinking it's probably just cramps or, uh, what they call prodromal labor, which is false labor.
Speaker 2 00:01:28 This goes on for a while and she starts to time them and notices that they're rhythmic, so they're happening in sequence, you know, So she tells the moms, you know, guys, I hate to do this, but we, I think we need to go, you know, I don't know that it is labor, but I also don't know that it's not labor. Right. They get home and, um, Katie tells me what's going on, and she's just saying, you know, it's probably just prodromal labor. So she goes in the bathroom and it's starting to get a little bit more intense. So she comes out, we're standing next to the bed and water breaks.
Speaker 1 00:02:01 Oh,
Speaker 2 00:02:02 <laugh>. And, and
Speaker 1 00:02:04 I said, Hello.
Speaker 2 00:02:05 Wow. I said, Woo, here we go. Let's do this thing. So I called the midwife, I called the doula, and I called both of our moms. I was like, Hey, you guys might want to come back over. I think it's going down tonight.
Speaker 1 00:02:16 That's when you text me, wasn't
Speaker 2 00:02:18 It? Yeah. Uh, yeah. You're absolutely the one of the top first five people I texted.
Speaker 1 00:02:23 So that was, that was before
Speaker 2 00:02:25 10 o'clock. It was be, Yeah, exactly. It was before 10 o'clock. So next thing you know, Katie's on hands and knees in the bathroom just feeling these contractions and they're getting more intense. And, you know, we're doing this thing at home, it's home birth. And we had planned it that way. We had, uh, you know, we, of course we had a backup plan, if anything went off the rails, it took us, it would take 15 minutes to get to the hospital. So we had that in place in case something didn't go correctly. But luckily everything went smoothly. So Katie is on all fours, contractions are coming. They're getting more intense. So the midwives come, I'm blowing up the birth pool, filling it up with water, and, um, you know, Katie's making some sounds that I have that I've only heard in nature, if you know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:11 <laugh> and those sounds with your name, every other sound. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:03:15 Exactly. Exactly. But at least they weren't directed towards me. You know, you don't wanna be on the business end. One of those sounds <laugh>. Okay. We get her out in the birth pool, and at this time things are heating up, you know, they're getting a lot more intense. She's, you know, the midwives are checking her, they're checking the heart rates, they're checking the heart rate of the baby to make sure she's in the right position. And they felt her, and they said, Yeah, she's in the right position. She was not in the right position. This baby was breach. And we found out, you know, when it's crunch time. So at this point it's almost too late to go anywhere. So the wi the midwife is like, Look, I've given birth to, or I have, um, I've, I've delivered breach babies in the past. We can do this here. And we said, Okay, let's do it. So Baby Charlotte comes out, booty first,
Speaker 1 00:04:02 Smiling on both ends.
Speaker 2 00:04:05 <laugh>. Exactly. Beautiful. She came out pooping, if you know what I mean, So, Right. It came outre,
Speaker 1 00:04:11 Hey, she's here.
Speaker 2 00:04:11 But here's the thing. Once the, once her body came out, the contraction stopped. So the head is stuck. So then Katie had to stand up outta the birth pool. She's holding onto me
Speaker 1 00:04:23 Little
Speaker 2 00:04:24 Gravity. She's, that's the only time that she had to actually push, you know, consciously push because the contractions are doing all the pushing for her. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, she's just basically feeling them. When the head was stuck is the only time she had to intentionally push. And after about a minute or two, the head came out and, uh, they rubbed Charlotte's chest and she comes to life, We're holding her. The rest is history. She's been squealing since then.
Speaker 1 00:04:50 Well, beautiful brother. Um, coincidental, I guess. Well, when, the way that she came out, because with both of my daughters, I did a mild cervical traction on them, you know, in the delivery room. Um, well, you know, um, Charlotte kind of had her own mild traction, just gravity and gravity assisted, if you will. Exactly. Spine on the way out and lined everything up beautifully. <laugh>. Uh, well that's, that's an awesome story. And, uh, we'll, um, carry on the history from there.
Speaker 2 00:05:21 Yeah, Yeah. I know what I was, You'll keep the updates coming.
Speaker 1 00:05:24 I gotta give you this one too. Um, when you, so when you text me, uh, when I, I went to bed and I kept my phone next to me just in case you were gonna follow up. And I remember I heard my, my phone call when you text me. And I, first thing I did was look over at my clock and the time was 2 22. Now, those are my favorite numbers, primarily because my mom was born on February 22nd, and she's passed now about 10 years ago. So when I looked over the clock and I saw those numbers, that the first thing that came to my head was, Wow, that's gonna be some good news. And it was. That's what I found out.
Speaker 2 00:06:02 Yes, exactly. It was good news for us. But it, it meant that you had to really, uh, throw on some roller skates for the next day, because this happened on Sunday night and she was delivered about 1230. The whole birth process only lasted three, four hours. And I texted you and I was like, Hey, I got 20 something patients scheduled for Monday. I need you to cover for me, buddy.
Speaker 1 00:06:21 No problem. And you did.
Speaker 2 00:06:22 Thank
Speaker 1 00:06:23 You for that. I had to put on the tennis shoes that actually tie. Yeah, I got you back on the next one as well, brother, my man.
Speaker 2 00:06:31 Yeah. Hopefully it'll be a couple years before
Speaker 1 00:06:33 That. Yeah. Take a little breather. Yeah. Give yourself a minute there.
Speaker 2 00:06:36 But yeah, uh, Katie has been an absolute rockstar. She, uh, I mean, how many people do you know who have, who give birth breach position? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, No, no medication and are up walking around the next day. So I gotta, gotta give a huge shout out to Katie. And, uh, people are just in awe of how she handled this whole thing. So I'm really impressed with her.
Speaker 1 00:06:58 Yes. And I can contest she was up and about and in very good spirits. Yes, that is true. And you know, it's a beautiful thing because, well, guess what, Maybe 250 years ago or so, that was the only option at home. The midwife, right? Yep. Uh, it was all females. Imagine that. And here we all are today healthy. Yep. No bright lights, no cold operating room, no slap on the Botox to get everything going. Welcome to the real world. Bam. Yep. Good luck, <laugh>. All right. That was great. You guys shout out Kitty girl. You're looking great. Doing great. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:07:34 Proud of you.
Speaker 1 00:07:35 And proud of you too. Chase Papa. Papa Chase. Yes. It's on brother. Yeah, girl own like cookie
Speaker 2 00:07:42 Com. Hey girl Dad Club over here. We, we were holding it down.
Speaker 1 00:07:46 Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 00:07:47 I see you got a book in your hand. What, what's that about?
Speaker 1 00:07:49 Well, you know what we wanted you, we brought up this in the, in the clinic this morning, iodine, that mystery mineral that, let me say just about all of us are deficient in because they've taken it out a circulation for our consumption in our water. Uh, let's see, I'm sorry. The bread, it is reckon havoc on our physiologically function of just about every organ in our body. So I thought we'd touch on that a little bit today cuz it's majorly misunderstood. Most people think of iodine, of course they think of a thyroid related issue, but there's much more to it than that. So let's jump right into what is iodine?
Speaker 2 00:08:32 Let's do it. Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1 00:08:33 Well, a lot of this information is really like cutting edge, even though it's been in print now for over 20 years. The book that I like, my favorite book is by uh, uh, Dr. David Brownstein. And um, his book is entitled Iodine, NYU Need it Very easy read, probably 150 pages. But, um, once you have this grasp and this understanding, you are on the road to major health benefits. So what is iodine? Iodine is a mineral that, um, comes from the what we call the ho holog families. So I want you to think of the shape of a stop sign, so to say. So our body has these holog receptor sites that are sp specifically for certain minerals of the hollen family. And in the thyroid you'll high find a extremely high concentration of these halogen receptor sites that also found in the ovaries and the breast tissue, as well as tissue on males like to prostate.
Speaker 1 00:09:45 So you might see a correlation with a lot of women and some men with thyroid related issues and things like fibrocystic breasts and fibrocystic ovarian disease. Well, back in the late 18 hundreds and early 19 hundreds, there was a solution called Linig Solution, which I believe is the one that you used, right? Chase Lus, Lus Lus solution. And a lot of people took the solution back in those days and there was very, very, very little, if any, trace of fibrocystic breast or fibrocystic ovarian diagnosis back then. Well then of course, you know, modern nutrition comes down the line and most of the eye down that people think of now is either in their salt, which they have actually removed from most salt. And we used to get some in the bread. And guess what? Now that's taken outta the bread. So now we are losing this primary mineral that the, a thyroid thrives on these other halogens that we have the possibility of consuming in our body.
Speaker 1 00:10:49 Every one of us are just about getting every day. And that's flooring in the water and toothpaste, chlorine and the water. And now bromine, which is a very toxic holog that used to be in bred, no, I'm sorry, it is in bred now as well as water. They took out the iodine of the bread and now there's fortifying it with bromine. So we have three major toxins that are coming into the body and our binding to these halogen receptor sites that the body wants iodine to bind into. And so when you start accumulating these toxins and we're not getting the iodine in the body, then we start winding out with issues, primarily starting with the thyroid. And that's why this practice, I see thyroid issues starting very, very early as young as 17. And you know, some of the symptoms, it's weight gain, it's fatigue, um, a lot of times spent on the couch of course, um, changes in temperature tend to, um, be very sensitive to that. Especially, um, they get cold often cold hands and feet and stuff like this, starting at a very, very young age. So these thyroids are getting burned out early on because of the lack of that primary mineral that they want. And we're just not getting it anymore. So supplementation with I dine is very, very, very important. I think we talked about this in another podcast about sometimes the milligram dosages can be extremely high, where we talk about, you know, three micrograms in the book, you're gonna read some, some people need as much as 50
Speaker 2 00:12:25 Milligrams. Yeah. When you're in that building phase. That's right.
Speaker 1 00:12:27 Yeah. And how you, how you test this really is through the urine. So you know, you have to consume the iodine and then, you know, you perform the urine test and uh, as the iodine starts to build up, then the other toxins, the bromine, the fluorine, the chlorine will start to diminish. And that's when your symptoms really start to improve energy being a primary one. Cause iodine is very important in running the energy pathway along with the beef vitamins we talked about in a magnesium. So that's how important this is. But you know, there's that thing that a lot of people fear, which is the radioactive iodine, which is the one that they used to treat the thyroid. So that's a poison, that's a
Speaker 2 00:13:04 Toxin. Yeah. People say, What about iodine poisoning and eating too much shrimp and some of those myths.
Speaker 1 00:13:08 Yes. And then with that, the iodine poisoning from the radioactive iodine. Yes. But that's usually associated with thyroid cancer treatment. But because some people think parts as parts, they don't differentiate between the two. Okay. So organic iodine is totally beneficial to the body. It's an absolute must.
Speaker 2 00:13:28 It's like natural iodine versus artificial eyed
Speaker 1 00:13:31 Bingo. Yeah. Once it's broken down into its utilization part here again, um, the other major function with the thyroid is every 17 minutes blood runs through the thyroid. And if we have a rogue cell there, that needs to be destroyed because down the line it could cause maybe some type of cancer development or, uh, some other kind of mutation. Well, it's the thyroids job to pick that up. And in order to pick that up, it needs the iodine to function properly. So even though most people consider iodine deficiency, it's when you get this big bubble on the side of your neck known as a gorder. Right. And until then everything's okay. It's like, no, no, totally wrong by then, major problems are on. So we want to make sure that we're consuming enough iodine to help the thyroid regulate cell differentiation, if you will.
Speaker 2 00:14:25 Yeah. Cause that's what they told my dad. You know, he is got the, they told me he is got a goiter on his iodine or nodule rather on his, So they put him on, um, armor thyroid or they put 'em on, uh, Synthroid. Synthroid. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:14:37 Now a good point there because the Synthroid is synthetic and that's the most popular one used. And when you're using a synthetic thyroid like Synthroid, you're actually going to deplete that thyroid's ability to use iodine. So you're gonna have to increase even more iodine supplementation if you are on medication for that. And the other sad thing about that is in a sense, what you're doing with that synthetic Synthroid, if you will, is you're jumpstarting a dead battery. Which is why most people out there, you'll know this story, you start off on X amount of milligrams and within the next year you're doubling the dosage because that previous dosage was not getting the work done. And then of course they started coming out with the GL stuff like the armor thyroid, which is, um,
Speaker 2 00:15:25 Big more,
Speaker 1 00:15:26 Right? I think it, I think it is pig
Speaker 2 00:15:28 In nature, Throid and
Speaker 1 00:15:30 All that. And these are, these are better for the body. They're closer to natural if you will. However, the powers that be in a pharmaceutical company don't like those alternatives out there because that cuts in on their profit. I mean, there was 10 years ago there was a difficult time getting a hold of anything alternative to a Synthroid.
Speaker 2 00:15:52 Yeah. They, they don't push that like they do Synthroid.
Speaker 1 00:15:55 Exactly. Because, uh, you know, it's less evasive on the body and it's less profit for them. But if you can find that, that is the better alternative. But you need neither if you'll start supplementing with iodine, because that's what my patients do, even my 70 year old plus. All right. You start them on a regiment from that. And that, of course the thyroid also loves other minerals as well. So the combination pulls a lot of people off of sub medication for, uh, again, we're talking about not fixing anything, but we're regulating when we medicate, uh, the thyroid.
Speaker 2 00:16:27 And there is a difference between, uh, the different types of thyroid issues. You know, you have a tru like a weak thyroid or thyroid issue, and then you have Hashimotos, which is a little bit of a different ball game. You're not really gonna wanna supplement with iodine if you have Hashimotos because that's, that's an autoimmune type of, uh, thyroid condition. So, which if you have weak thyroid, you know, if your thyroid's just underactive, then yes, uh, iodine's an excellent way to go. Hashimotos on the other hand, which, which is difficult to diagnose because most doctors aren't running the proper types of thyroid tests. But um, that's something you wanna go to a functional medicine doctor for. You can differentiate which type of thyroid issue you have.
Speaker 1 00:17:08 True. Now the hyperthyroid also works beautifully with the idea and supplementation. Hashimotos, like you said, that's more of an autoimmune. And the problem here lies that autoimmune disorders are going increasing tenfold almost every year. So it's through the roof. Um, and yes, that's much more difficult to manage, but it is still manageable. And that's why I said do get the book. Because for somebody with Hashimotos that'll help you and your doctor work your way through the, the protocol for it if you will, cuz that it is an autoimmune disorder. You don't have to suffer the symptoms of that autoimmune disorder if you're able to give that thyroid the boost that it needs.
Speaker 2 00:17:51 I have a patient who, uh, recently approached, she's a chiropractic patient, but she also wanted to have some functional medicine work done. So I said, Okay, well here's where we'll start. We'll run some lab work. She showed me what lab work she had done in the past and it was just the absolute bare minimums, you know, T4 and T3 basically. Yeah. So I gave her a list of the markers that I wanted her to have run. I said, Let just go to your primary care, see if, uh, if they'll do this for you. So the primary care was like, Oh, you don't need all this. So I said, Okay, check out any lab tests. Now it goes over to any lab tests now. And to do the lab work that I recommended, it would've cost her almost $2,000. Unbelievable. So I'm getting back in network with, do you know, have you heard of the professional co-op? Yes. Yeah. Professional co-ops where we can get lab work done that would cost thousands. You can get it done for about 300 bucks and that's not much more than what insurance would've cost. So, um, that's something that I'm gonna be adding back on to the, uh, adding back into the toolbox here in the next month or so. So
Speaker 1 00:18:50 Yeah, you can use that through LabCorp. I know for sure. And a few others. Quick Quest. Yeah, that's the other thing you're bringing out too. People, this is the other issue. I don't check this out. In your New Years insurance coverage, a lot of the major insurance companies, including Blue Cross Blue Shield, they're getting to where they are not covering standard blood work panels anymore, which is, you know, they want you to get them, but if there's not something to write you a script for, be careful because they'll find that as maintenance care if you, it will.
Speaker 2 00:19:26 And, and god forbid you maintain your health.
Speaker 1 00:19:28 Exactly. Although not, we're not paying for that. So be ready for out of pocket with that. Even if your primary care physician doesn't warn you ahead of time, Look, look for that because a lot of my patients, I'm saying over half of them now winding up with that problem.
Speaker 2 00:19:44 Insurance companies have always been, you know, they've always been a certain type of way with lab work such as one lab marker that is really valuable for predicting heart attack called an hs, C R P a, high sensitivity C reactive protein. That lab marker has been shown in studies to be able to predict a heart attack before it happens. But guess what? Your insurance won't pay for that marker until after you've already had the heart attack
Speaker 1 00:20:12 <laugh>. So again, a lot of times you ask for that test and if your physician doesn't know what an elevated number means, if it's not something they're privy and or they've studied, they may refuse to have that tested because if it is high and they don't know how you go about lowering it, then they might not want that test taken on you. It's probably the most sensitive marker for inflammation throughout the body. Period. Guess what it's brought down with diet and supplementation. So there for since of not using a medication to lower it, it's not popular in the medical school at this point, even though yes, the studies have been out over 20 years now. It's not often requested by most practitioners, but absolutely the most sensitive one for inflammation.
Speaker 2 00:21:07 Another one, homocystine for inflammation, another great one in when she, when that patient called, she asked for homocystine, they said, What's that? Mm-hmm
Speaker 1 00:21:15 <affirmative> homocystine, they're elevated very high in things like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and uh, Lou Gehrig's disease. Again, any type of major inflammatory type reaction. And of course this is also associated with those amyloid plaing that they used to think used to think was the cause of Alzheimer's. But now as of the last month or so, it's like, guess what? We were wrong. What is it? Well we don't know, but keep taking your medication until we figure it out. <laugh>. And again, homocysteine, how do you lower it? The B vitamins, folic acid, b12. Whereas the big push if there's not a pharmaceutical to lower that. Sad, but very true, very important markers for anti-aging two doc. Very, very, very important markers.
Speaker 2 00:21:57 Well everybody, thanks for tuning in. We'll uh, be back in a week and reach out to us with those listener questions and we will have them answered for you.
Speaker 1 00:22:05 Have yourself a great week.
